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Posted 01 June 2013 - 06:33 PM

ADC and support have a lower skill floor than top and mid; top and mid you need to worry about trading properly, CSing in danger, roaming, knowing your matchups, when to hard push vs. chasing lane etc. on top of the stuff you need to worry about as ADC/support (wave control, last hitting)

 

Bot lane can usually die once or twice and not get snowballed on; mid or top gives up an early kill or two and unless you know the matchup extremely well you're going to end up feeding rest of game.



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Posted 01 June 2013 - 07:14 PM

ADC and support have a lower skill floor than top and mid; top and mid you need to worry about trading properly, CSing in danger, roaming, knowing your matchups, when to hard push vs. chasing lane etc. on top of the stuff you need to worry about as ADC/support (wave control, last hitting)

 

Bot lane can usually die once or twice and not get snowballed on; mid or top gives up an early kill or two and unless you know the matchup extremely well you're going to end up feeding rest of game.

 

People always say that, but ADC and support are my worst roles. Top and Jungle are my best. I've always found playing ADC to be the most complicated.


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 07:33 PM

I struggle to play ADC with anyone other than Quinn now. I can mid and top fine, both solo and duo. Especially if I end up facing someone I can goad. Let them push top and sneak through the jungle to pincer them using my tower usually gets me a kill, and if it doesn't it leaves them battered to the point of having to waste potions or recall, while I pick up extra farm. I actually prefer solo top though, since you have to share farm if you're with a partner, which leads to both of you being weaker.


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 08:08 PM

People always say that, but ADC and support are my worst roles. Top and Jungle are my best. I've always found playing ADC to be the most complicated.

I'm not saying they're easier, they just have a lower skill floor - they're the easiest to meet par with. At higher levels of play I consider support one of the hardest things to play well - baiting, proper warding, proper pinking, warding in the middle of fights etc.

 

And really, playing an ADC is all about discipline. The difference between a good adc and a bad adc, mechanics aside, is how slippery they are from bruisers and knowing when they can all in in team fights.

 

 

I struggle to play ADC with anyone other than Quinn now. I can mid and top fine, both solo and duo. Especially if I end up facing someone I can goad. Let them push top and sneak through the jungle to pincer them using my tower usually gets me a kill, and if it doesn't it leaves them battered to the point of having to waste potions or recall, while I pick up extra farm. I actually prefer solo top though, since you have to share farm if you're with a partner, which leads to both of you being weaker.

I thought you hit 30 o-o; you don't have a jungler every game?



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Posted 01 June 2013 - 08:34 PM

I'm not saying they're easier, they just have a lower skill floor - they're the easiest to meet par with. At higher levels of play I consider support one of the hardest things to play well - baiting, proper warding, proper pinking, warding in the middle of fights etc.

 

And really, playing an ADC is all about discipline. The difference between a good adc and a bad adc, mechanics aside, is how slippery they are from bruisers and knowing when they can all in in team fights.

 

Ah yeah that's definitely true. One of my biggest problems with ADC is knowing when to back off before i get dived by bruisers. That and well, having a support that either wont ward or complains that I should be warding.


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 09:13 PM

I thought you hit 30 o-o; you don't have a jungler every game?

Not always. The group I play with isn't very fluid in their chosen skills. Out of the 11 of us who play together, I'm the only one who can manage support without fucking it up, and only one of them is capable of jungling. So we often end up with a 2/1/2 format. Occasionally it ends up with 2 adcs on bot, so I take on a more offensive role than usual on top to make up for the fact that bot usually gets ruined really quickly. The only real upside to having two top is that ganks are less of an issue; unless the enemy team has good communication we can usually split up if we know a gank is inbound, which turns into a kill for us because the jungler hasn't got the chance to react.

 

But yeah, lacking a varied team kinda sucks... I can perform any role aside from jungle, and I'm learning that now, so I'll be able to fit any remaining role. Especially in ranked, where I've encountered quite a lot of insta-lock/premades who are, for lack of a better phrase, fucking retarded. Blitz/Malphite top? ok... Had someone take Soraka mid, didn't work out well at all, though fortunately that one wasn't ranked so no big deal.


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 10:34 PM

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 11:09 PM

Congrats!


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 11:21 PM

Thanks man  :)

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 07:57 AM

Ah yeah that's definitely true. One of my biggest problems with ADC is knowing when to back off before i get dived by bruisers. That and well, having a support that either wont ward or complains that I should be warding.

 

I would cry that entire game xD


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 07:12 PM

I would cry that entire game xD

You will cry all through bronze league.


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Posted 03 June 2013 - 08:45 PM

You will cry all through bronze league.

 

Ah yeah that's definitely true. One of my biggest problems with ADC is knowing when to back off before i get dived by bruisers. That and well, having a support that either wont ward or complains that I should be warding.

 

One way I could avoid this is play lots of lulu and alistar -> My 2 favorite support champs.


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Posted 08 June 2013 - 06:32 AM

I found these, I like them.

 

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I want to turn the support one into a background ._.


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Posted 08 June 2013 - 07:22 AM

http://i.imgur.com/hubalRH.jpg

 

there's the support one in 1080. however, i can't tell if i fucked up the image or not. colorblind me sees the same bluriness and shit on both sizes, so i said good enough after resizing and touching it up with anti-aliasing and sharpening.



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Posted 08 June 2013 - 07:30 AM

I love you. XD


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Posted 08 June 2013 - 07:37 AM

heh, you're welcome <3

 

but seriously, it took me longer to upload the image than to fix it XD

 

gimp. it's free and it works.



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Posted 08 June 2013 - 01:06 PM

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 01:24 PM

>i like this skin in jax


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Posted 08 June 2013 - 02:36 PM

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 11:14 AM

The Brazilians are after you. Jajajaja.


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