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[Wolf]

Well in all fairness the entire thread is a steaming pile of irony. For a culture supporting those two exact things there is a rather large bit of animosity.

that's true, I never saw it like that

Hell, in hindsight that double-sided irony shows up every time brony's are put down

[Jesse Custer]

bronies...

[Wolf]

bronies...

Welcome to the internet, hope you enjoy your stay.

[Cthulhu]

I used to think this whole brony shit was all a joke, tongue-in-cheek, whatever. But then my friend started putting MLP shit on his door.

...I guess this IS serious appreciation

[L!nk123]

this is the truth

[SushiKitten]

This whole "grown men liking children's TV shows, especially ones aimed at girls" thing didn't start with bronies. Otaku in Japan have been doing it for years.

And what's the problem with that? They found something to be excited and passionate about. All of us have something we really love, whether it's technology or Doctor Who or politics or maps. What makes your favourite television show better than theirs? And actually, I'm pretty sure the creator of the show, Lauren Faust, was more than excited to see that the show had become more popular than she thought it would, and over more audiences than just 5 year old girls. What someone is a fan of doesn't define who they are

And I get that everyone has a certain amount of tolerance. Like, I draw the line at otherkin. I just can not be convinced that you have the soul of a faerie dragon in a human body. But that doesn't mean I go around saying they're stupid. In fact, having spent a lot of my teenage years in a community based around Pokemon, a lot of my online friend are furries or otherkin,

ITT: Acceptance and understanding

I think that's two of the main themes of MLP, also

TIL that just because MLP a kid's show, doesn't mean adults can't learn from it.

[Wolf]

This whole "grown men liking children's TV shows, especially ones aimed at girls" thing didn't start with bronies. Otaku in Japan have been doing it for years.

And what's the problem with that? They found something to be excited and passionate about. All of us have something we really love, whether it's technology or Doctor Who or politics or maps. What makes your favourite television show better than theirs? What someone is a fan of doesn't define who they are

This, this, a thousand times this.

I just can not be convinced that you have the soul of a faerie dragon in a human body. But that doesn't mean I go around saying they're stupid. In fact, having spent a lot of my teenage years in a community based around Pokemon, a lot of my online friend are furries or otherkin,

I know this is getting off-topic, but it was a shitty topic to begin with.

My opinion from experience is that therians/otherkin are looking for a form of self-expression, sadly one based in denial. Therians/otherkin think the best expression of themselves is an animal, either by roleplaying an animal or telling people that they are an animal. In the long run, though, it's bad for your self esteem because these people feel unhappy with their form, in the same way someone wanting to lose weight is unhappy with their form. But being human is all you get, and there is no way you're going to become an animal. All they can do is come to terms with this, and find a better form of self-expression. Sadly coming to grips with this is difficult for some, especially when they have lived the lie so long. They say it isn't hurting anyone, but most of the time it is, it's hurting themselves. Again, this is just my opinion from my personal experience.

Flippy, LD, and Spleen can vouch that I used to have otherkin tendencies [hell, IIRC years ago I introduced myself as a wolf, complete with RP], but with their friendship [yeah, that's corny, I know] I found I didn't have to express myself that way, and as I shied away from those tendencies my self-esteem grew until I was comfortable being myself.

/cornyexposition

[LD50]

you have come a long way out of that shell you used to have, dude. >.>

[Wolf]

you have come a long way out of that shell you used to have, dude. >.>

Yeah, I'm glad too

and I only have you, Spleen, Flippy, and Alie to thank

[gastlyus]

guise i think we learned something from all of this...(in my opinion i hate bronies) but if you all critisize me of my opinion its pretty much like me critisizing bronies, so dont judge people of their opinions and i bet my point of view is way more different then yours...but who gives a **** i know you do but what if made fun of your opinions? (but i would never do that) bot obvioulsly you do.

[Bowsette]

twilight and potter were not aimed at kids in the single digit age group.

No. They are both marketed for younger teens. Do you have a point, or are you just trying to use the factor of there being a ~3 year age difference as proof that you're right?

Similar point, boybands. Justin Bieber, OneDirection, Jonas Brothers, etc etc. are all marketed towards a young, female fanbase. However, they have large fanbases in their 20s or above. It's no different.

[gastlyus]

calm down. dont give me all this s**t on a little topic i posted O-O

[Calvary]

guise i think we learned something from all of this...(in my opinion i hate bronies) but if you all critisize me of my opinion its pretty much like me critisizing bronies, so dont judge people of their opinions and i bet my point of view is way more different then yours...but who gives a **** i know you do but what if made fun of your opinions? (but i would never do that) bot obvioulsly you do.

Why do you hate them though? It's incredibly irrational. We're not making fun of you or your opinions, most everyone who has commented has found fault in your intolerance, not you personally. Obviously your opinion is different, that's why we're bloody debating. The difference is you're argument is founded on a dislike or hatred towards one demographic while ours is based upon acceptance.

[Bowsette]

guise i think we learned something from all of this...(in my opinion i hate bronies) but if you all critisize me of my opinion its pretty much like me critisizing bronies, so dont judge people of their opinions and i bet my point of view is way more different then yours...but who gives a **** i know you do but what if made fun of your opinions? (but i would never do that) bot obvioulsly you do.

There's a difference between mindless criticism/insults, and providing a rationalized argument. Guess which one you did, and then guess which one we did.

Hint: The one you did isn't the one we did

[Calvary]

I just realised I can't take myself seriously now I'm Kimmy.

[SushiKitten]

I know this is getting off-topic, but it was a shitty topic to begin with.

My opinion from experience is that therians/otherkin are looking for a form of self-expression, sadly one based in denial. Therians/otherkin think the best expression of themselves is an animal, either by roleplaying an animal or telling people that they are an animal. In the long run, though, it's bad for your self esteem because these people feel unhappy with their form, in the same way someone wanting to lose weight is unhappy with their form. But being human is all you get, and there is no way you're going to become an animal. All they can do is come to terms with this, and find a better form of self-expression. Sadly coming to grips with this is difficult for some, especially when they have lived the lie so long. They say it isn't hurting anyone, but most of the time it is, it's hurting themselves. Again, this is just my opinion from my personal experience.

Flippy, LD, and Spleen can vouch that I used to have otherkin tendencies [hell, IIRC years ago I introduced myself as a wolf, complete with RP], but with their friendship [yeah, that's corny, I know] I found I didn't have to express myself that way, and as I shied away from those tendencies my self-esteem grew until I was comfortable being myself.

/cornyexposition

Thank you for sharing that story.

I used to do a lot of RPing in that Pokemon community, as a wolf named Luna. I actually still use the handle Lunies, which was her nickname. At some point I had gone through a pseudo-spiritual phase and I dabbled a bit into Wicca, magic, otherkin. Even though I wanted to believe at the time, I could never quite convince myself of feeling a phantom tail or have the urges that the other otherkin claimed to have. I guess it was more fun to pretend than to remind myself I was a quiet, mundane 14 year old in high school.

I still follow the core Wiccan principles around nature, but I've grown out of that since I've grown an interest in science.

[L!nk123]

QUIT BEING BONERS THIS RETARDED

[Wolf]

Thank you for sharing that story.

I used to do a lot of RPing in that Pokemon community, as a wolf named Luna. I actually still use the handle Lunies, which was her nickname. At some point I had gone through a pseudo-spiritual phase and I dabbled a bit into Wicca, magic, otherkin. Even though I wanted to believe at the time, I could never quite convince myself of feeling a phantom tail or have the urges that the other otherkin claimed to have. I guess it was more fun to pretend than to remind myself I was a quiet, mundane 14 year old in high school.

I still follow the core Wiccan principles around nature, but I've grown out of that since I've grown an interest in science.

I think Lunies is a cute nickname xD, and my friend had a half-wolf half-husky named Luna

I, too, had my spiritual/otherkin phase in high school. I felt like I was the run-of-the-mill transfer student, and I had poor self-image, seeing myself as a loser with no distinct characteristics. What I needed was other people to convince me that I was a unique, interesting individual. And it's true, we are all unique, interesting, and beautiful people, even the worst of us.

Also, I'm not saying RP is a bad thing, quite the opposite. It can be a good, harmless form of self-expression. It can just as easily be denial of reality.

Otherkin, I feel, is rejecting yourself and trying to live vicariously through an animal. People don't feel phantom tails, and these "urges" are just usually teenage hormones [unless you suffer from the Clinical Lycanthropy, a form of Psychosis, in which case seek immediate medical attention]. I've managed to see all my [therian/otherkin] friends more or less grow out of it. Albeit most are now furries, the principle remains. They stopped trying to make themselves what they weren't, but they didn't stop expressing themselves, they just express themselves differently now, whether it be art, literature, music, role-playing as their fursona's, etc.

I'm glad you managed to grow out of that shell

[SpleenBeGone]

I'm not going to pretend to understand their extreme interest in it; I personally find it strange, but it doesn't affect me so whatever. I can't say I've knowingly seen/met one that wasn't a greasy neckbeard, but I'm sure some of them are normal... somewhere.

Pretty much this. They're not hurting me, they're not depriving myself or anyone else of any rights, so it doesn't matter what they do. Let them have some fun and lighten up.

[gastlyus]

This site is gay (just like bronies and im NOT gonna reccomend it to any one) cuz bronies are gay