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#1 Cthulhu

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 02:22 PM

Anyone else watch it?

The first season was great, but the second season was definitely worse. The first half of the second season almost put me in a coma by how boring it was but things started picking up later on, thank God.

Anyway, I still like the show but the comics are better. If you like the show I definitely recommend reading those.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 03:32 PM

I liked the first season. However the second season I really lost interest in it entirely.
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Posted 24 May 2012 - 02:47 PM

Yeah, a few of us are big fans.

There's a thread up here if you'd like to read it. http://nerdforum.org...ated-zombology/

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 12:02 AM

Man, what? The last episode of 2nd season made me wanna cry for my mother. And the 3rd season can be defined in one word: agony. Now, I'm waiting to suffer again with snappy Rick and his folks.



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Posted 18 May 2014 - 05:49 AM

Hey guys, fairly old thread but I just started watching the show, and I have to say I disagree with the general consensus here. I'm only up to season 2 (near the end). I thought the 1st season was awesome, action packed and suspenseful. The second season, as I'm seeing it is more of a relationship building one so as to get the viewer more invested in the characters. Sure there are still some action based episodes, but i feel the general atmosphere gravitating towards suspense due to drama. Almost like a post apocalyptic soapie. Which btw I don't mind at all. But won't mind equally if/when it goes back to action and suspense. I'm interested in seeing how the third season shapes up.

btw is that zombology thread still working? All i got was a 'not found' error.


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Posted 18 May 2014 - 09:30 AM

Hey guys, fairly old thread but I just started watching the show, and I have to say I disagree with the general consensus here. I'm only up to season 2 (near the end). I thought the 1st season was awesome, action packed and suspenseful. The second season, as I'm seeing it is more of a relationship building one so as to get the viewer more invested in the characters. Sure there are still some action based episodes, but i feel the general atmosphere gravitating towards suspense due to drama. Almost like a post apocalyptic soapie. Which btw I don't mind at all. But won't mind equally if/when it goes back to action and suspense. I'm interested in seeing how the third season shapes up.

btw is that zombology thread still working? All i got was a 'not found' error.

I would normally take any opportunity to poke holes in the show, because it is a bastardisation of the books.

Yes, I am that guy sometimes.

 

However, even though the show essentially has nothing in common with the books at this point other than the title and there are a few guys named Grimes, it isn't straying too far when it comes to the drama. The books are half zombie gore, half interpersonal drama between all of the living(ish).


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Posted 18 May 2014 - 05:37 PM

The 'ish' intrigues me. Maybe I'll have to read the books as well.. I haven't done that since Harry Potter.. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 06:26 PM

The ish has everything to do with the title of the show, and books.

I am sure it is nothing new to you, having seen nearly all of season two.


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Posted 18 May 2014 - 07:41 PM

I'm notoriously slow on uptakes... the only thing I can fathom is when Shane turned into a walker, because he wasn't bit. Or do you mean ish just as in zombie?


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Posted 18 May 2014 - 07:52 PM

After a bit in the books they deduce that they are all infected with the zombie virus, only they are immune as long as they are alive.

When they die, they turn.

 

Dramatic Pause: The living are the walking dead, as they are doomed to become what they are trying so hard to survive.

 

Not really a spoiler if you know zombies and whatnot.


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Posted 18 May 2014 - 08:37 PM

An excellent twist! And moral to the story. That's awesome, I'm going to watch the rest of the show from that metaphorical viewpoint from now on. Thanks Affray. 

Although.. if it is eventually mentioned in the show, which i'm seeing could be the crux of it and climax of the final episode of the series for example, if it's that, then it iss kind of a spoiler, given that i don't know my zombology very well either. But, I don't mind in the slightest. It will make the blow less intense and I'll be able to recover more easily.

 

As a side note, I'm loving the construct of every scene in season 2. It's basically this:

person1: I want to bring up something with you that was previously established as a sub-plot to fill out time and draw out the dramatic thing that's happening in the main plot line.

person 2: varying dramatic reacion

Dialogue ensues. Eventually one person will dramatically walk away after a catchy 1 liner. Always. The scene always ends with someone walking away.

Another metaphor? the WALKING dead? oooh...


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Posted 18 May 2014 - 09:13 PM

I watched the show until part way through season two or so, then completely lost faith in it and walked away.

Season one is fairly on the money as far as plot goes, aside from some characters being absent and others being added for no apparent reason.

Then season two gets in to the thick of it and just sort of goes sideways plot wise compared to the books, which made it quite impossible to enjoy it.

I would suggest watching the show to completion, then going out and buying every Walking Dead Compendium that you can get your hands on and seeing what should have happened in the show.


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Posted 19 May 2014 - 04:50 AM

I may just have to do that. Do you happen to know if it's in audio book?

I watched the show until part way through season two or so, then completely lost faith in it and walked away.

Are you serious? I mean... DEAD serious? (it took longer than I care to mention to come up with that one)

 

Yes in all honesty I can't see season two being really all that fitting as far as the main plot was concerned. Like I say, I think it was to establish a deeper bond between characters and audience. In this sense it kind of reminds me of Lost so far: main plot with lots of side plots, deep character connections, and always a massive cliffhanger at the end of each episode. But perhaps the show is directed towards a more mainstream audience whereas the books for people like you and me, i.e. nerds?


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Posted 19 May 2014 - 10:25 AM

The books are of the comic variety, so audio versions are sort out of the equation.

 

The show has most definitely been tailored for the mainstream, which is sadly the way that most prime time series' go.

The most baffling thing about the show is that I don't understand why they didn't just take the exact plot of the books and not trifle with it.

The story and characters were already amazing, and had a massive following, so why shit on a good thing?


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Posted 20 May 2014 - 10:58 PM

The most baffling thing about the show is that I don't understand why they didn't just take the exact plot of the books and not trifle with it.

The story and characters were already amazing, and had a massive following, so why shit on a good thing?

To leave a sense of suspense I guess? So that people didn't know exactly what was gonna happen? And if they stuck with the books, there'd be no Daryl.


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 09:51 PM

To leave a sense of suspense I guess? So that people didn't know exactly what was gonna happen? And if they stuck with the books, they'd be no Daryl.

Hold on to your tits.

I give absolutely zero shits about Daryl.

Enjoy the actor, enjoy the character, his inclusion in the Walking Dead filled me with disdain doe the whole idea.

He simply should not be.

 

As for the suspense/surprise twists angle, I don't think that is what they were going for.

I have caught wind that they intend to do another show, taking place at the same time but with different characters in a different group.

They are doing this to make more money and drag the whole ordeal out even longer.

If they actually wanted to have everything be fresh and new, they would have just done the original series with a whole new group, separate from the one in the books.

So, I am lead to the conclusion that the people in charge of the show are just tooly tools who can't leave well enough alone.


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 09:10 AM

Money talks, Affray.


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 12:26 PM

Hold on to your tits.

I give absolutely zero shits about Daryl.

Enjoy the actor, enjoy the character, his inclusion in the Walking Dead filled me with disdain doe the whole idea.

He simply should not be.

 

As for the suspense/surprise twists angle, I don't think that is what they were going for.

I have caught wind that they intend to do another show, taking place at the same time but with different characters in a different group.

They are doing this to make more money and drag the whole ordeal out even longer.

If they actually wanted to have everything be fresh and new, they would have just done the original series with a whole new group, separate from the one in the books.

So, I am lead to the conclusion that the people in charge of the show are just tooly tools who can't leave well enough alone.

I love Daryl. He's awesome. There'd be rioting in the streets if he was killed off.

 

The creators of the graphic novels are deeply involved with the show.

 

Watching Talking Dead, the after show, sheds a lot of light on the whole thing. For instance, the writer of the graphic novels said he wanted The Governor to die differently on the show because he, in hindsight, didn't like the unsatisfying way he killed him off in the books.


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 03:43 PM

Money talks, Affray.

And bullshit walks, but that doesn't man I have to like it.

 

 

I love Daryl. He's awesome. There'd be rioting in the streets if he was killed off.

 

The creators of the graphic novels are deeply involved with the show.

 

Watching Talking Dead, the after show, sheds a lot of light on the whole thing. For instance, the writer of the graphic novels said he wanted The Governor to die differently on the show because he, in hindsight, didn't like the unsatisfying way he killed him off in the books.

The creators like paycheques as much as any other human.

 

I do agree that the governor died in a less than grandiose manner in the books.

Especially given certain acts performed upon him beforehand.

I was expecting a grand finale sort of conflict between he and Michonne.


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 08:41 PM

The creators like paycheques as much as any other human.

 

I do agree that the governor died in a less than grandiose manner in the books.

Especially given certain acts performed upon him beforehand.

I was expecting a grand finale sort of conflict between he and Michonne.

True, but that's probably why I rarely read the source material for movies and shows anymore.  You're 99.9% likely to be disappointed.  The only thing that ever lived up to the book that I read beforehand was the Watchmen movie.  For all comic book movies, I like to browse Wikipedia for the new characters featured beforehand (if I don't know them already from many insomnia-filled nights previously filled with in-depth Marvel Comics Database and other wiki reading.)

 

I'm surprised they didn't go forward with the gruesome death of Judith in the comics (which I only read because I got too curious after watching a Let's Play of The Walking Dead game by Telltale and read more about Lily.)

 

And Michonne got to put a sword through his chest.  That was satisfying.


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