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#1 DrSlater06

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 05:36 AM

I started this topic because I need to know if I am the only one who was annoyed that the Tom Bombadil scene from the Fellowship of the Ring (book) did not make it into the movie - not even the extended edition. I think it would have been a great scene; including Old Man Willow and the barrow wights.

 

What did you miss in the transition from book to film?


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 08:33 AM

Everything that didn't make it from the books to the movies annoys me.

 

And everything they changed. Like character designs, and equipment... and personality.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 01:05 PM

To be fair the movies are still amazing, but there is a lot of important stuff that they should have put in, such as Tom Bombadil.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:41 PM

They also changed the characters' appearances and stuff quite a lot. Boromir had black hair in the books, but they changed that because people wouldn't be able to distinguish between him and Aragorn (morons). In the books Legolas used a single dagger, in the movies he had two. The movies portrayed Gimli as carrying three axes, in the books he carried one, etc.

 

Little changes that bug the crap out of the book fans XD


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 03:39 PM

Tom Bombadil was a poorly conceived character in the books, so I don't blame them for not including him in the movie.

If Gandalf really gave two shits about saving the realm he would have just given the ring to Bombadil and sent him on the journey.

He is not only immune to the power of the ring, he seems to have his own power over it.

He can wear the ring without being affected by it in any way, he can see Frodo when he puts the ring on and is invisible to everyone else, and when they are staying at his house he does a magic trick and makes the ring disappear then reappear at his whim.

Galdalf even points out afterward that the ring has no power over Tom Bombadil, but then closes the hatch on the idea of giving it to him instead of Frodo by saying that he wouldn't take the ring seriously and would most likely misplace it.

 

So basically Tolkein wrote a character that made the entire story so far and from then on redundant, and then did a few lines of dialogue in the next book to make sure it wasn't a plot hole.


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Posted 11 July 2014 - 06:55 AM

Yea, a lot was changed. And Boromir was supposed to die at the beginning of the Two Towers. I know Tom's character would have created a weird paradox, but that whole scene would have been cool anyhow.

 

And now with the Hobbit; Peter Jackson is just doing his own thing adding Legolas in and stuff. Oh well :/


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Posted 11 July 2014 - 06:59 AM

I haven't even watched The Hobbit for that very reason. That and I don't feel like paying £15 for the blu-ray.


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 11:12 PM

Honestly I get why it's annoying. But the movies are made by a different person. With a different creative mind. There are people who have never read the books, so adding possible confusing info is kinda stupid. The movies are SWEET. anytime a movie is made from a book, I personally feel like it's a bit much to expect smaller details to make it. The movie has s time limit and it has to flow to keep the viewer interested.
It's like fan writing, they go off an add a little more, or explain it from their view point.


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 07:35 PM

You guys do remember that the films are like 3 hours with half the story included?


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Posted 17 July 2014 - 06:11 PM

You guys do remember that the films are like 3 hours with half the story included?

Yep.

The order of operations along the whole story arc of the movies don't really line up quite right either due to a books ability to have several chapters take place at the same time.


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 07:19 AM

Truth be told I find LOTR's really boring. I've never made it all the way through the 3rd movie. 

 

The Hobbit was awesome in the fact that it put me to sleep on my 13 hour flight!! (TY PJ!!!)

 

My country goes ape shit over this franchise, heck, they've even turned Matamata into a tourist attraction Hobbit Town. 

 

$90 to see a hut in the side of hill??? GET FARKED!!!!!!! lol


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 06:28 PM

Truth be told I find LOTR's really boring. I've never made it all the way through the 3rd movie. 

 

The Hobbit was awesome in the fact that it put me to sleep on my 13 hour flight!! (TY PJ!!!)

 

My country goes ape shit over this franchise, heck, they've even turned Matamata into a tourist attraction Hobbit Town. 

 

$90 to see a hut in the side of hill??? GET FARKED!!!!!!! lol

Yeah you kiwis went a bit nutty when the movies came out.

Wasn't it in the works for a bit that the capital city was going to be name changed to Mordor?


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 08:14 PM

You guys do remember that the films are like 3 hours with half the story included?

See my comment on how badly I want that 8-hour cut of Sorcerer's Stone.


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 06:58 PM

Pff, nerd. ;D


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 08:09 PM

I fell asleep during the first Lord of the Rings movie when I went to see in the theatre and have no desire to see any of them. I don't know what it is but it doesn't tickle my fancy.


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 12:14 AM

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 03:52 PM

I know I know.... I get shit for it all the time.

 

I'm a disgrace.

 

but I'm proud of it ^.^


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 05:41 PM

I think they are awesome, but I also play D&D so the similarities are great and it makes you pay attention to the details in the movie.


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Posted 23 July 2014 - 05:58 AM

Yeah you kiwis went a bit nutty when the movies came out.

Wasn't it in the works for a bit that the capital city was going to be name changed to Mordor?

I guess those films are making my country a lot of money. No wonder our dollar is worth hepas now compared to the US and OZ.

 

Yeah them fools wanted to rename Wellington to Mordor for a day. Catch those monkeys up. LOL

 

They even made the cinema during the premiere look like middle earth. was buzzy as.

 

I fell asleep during the first Lord of the Rings movie when I went to see in the theatre and have no desire to see any of them. I don't know what it is but it doesn't tickle my fancy.

I know exactly what you mean. Hasn't floated my boat either. Just too long and too much mumbojumbo to take it. I would never endure that sort of punishment by seeing them in the theatre. lol


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 03:27 PM

I don't really mind when things get changed. 
Why? Because books are books and movies are movies. 

If they put everything from the book in perfectly, the movies would sucks *as movies*. Those things make sense only in the context of a book.

 

Remember, the creators of the films have their own creative ambitions apart from what Tolkien wanted. 

Hell, my favorite director of all time (Kubrick) was notorious for this. He stripped the stories down to their bones and rebuilt them in movie form. This ended up creating some pretty great films.

Go read the book that Dr Strangelove was based on.


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