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#41 Majestic

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 01:16 AM

They are not hard to find in the U.S. Never bought any, but I have heard you definitely need to know the right person. I'm with Cait on this. There is a reason some drugs are illegal. Never understood why marijuana was illegal though. It's one that is actually good for you. I guess maybe it's just to cut down on obesity.

Read my last post before this one. And take a quick look at links off to two different papers on two different studies, and say that again. That is factual information right there.

This. This times a million.

How did anyone come to the assumption that people who enjoy it need it? I have had countless good times without this stuff.

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 05:15 AM

They are not hard to find in the U.S. Never bought any, but I have heard you definitely need to know the right person. I'm with Cait on this. There is a reason some drugs are illegal. Never understood why marijuana was illegal though. It's one that is actually good for you. I guess maybe it's just to cut down on obesity.

 

No person or government has the right to tell me what I should or shouldn't put into my body. I have agency and the ability to decide whether something is good for me or not. There's just no excuse for a government to criminalise drug use, especially when so much habitual drug use is a medical problem, not a criminal one.


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 01:19 PM

How did anyone come to the assumption that people who enjoy it need it? I have had countless good times without this stuff.

Okay, so like, taking the word "need" out, it still stands. Why are mind-altering drugs/alcohol "fun"? Like, I don't get the appeal of not being in control.

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 02:10 PM

Okay, so like, taking the word "need" out, it still stands. Why are mind-altering drugs/alcohol "fun"? Like, I don't get the appeal of not being in control.

 

Some people do indeed lose control when they drink or take drugs, and some people just don't like it. Those people are probably better off without it. However, many people don't lose control and enjoy it occasionally.

 

It can be incredibly fun. I was walking in the woods near my house with my friends one night on LSD, and it was like a whole new world. Looking back at my area from the top of a hill through the woods, it looked like a huge town all up the side of a really tall hill. At one point, me and my friend looked up at the clouds, and all of the clouds were rushing in towards a central point and wooshing up in a big vortex into the sky really fast above us - I'd never seen anything like it. I was once at a festival, and sat in a big tent, and for a moment, me and my friend both thought that we had shrunk really small and everything else around use was really big. There was once this pinky-purple fuzzy layer about a centimetre thick around everything in my garden - even over my friend. It was the most surreal thing. There'll be moments, someone will say a funny sounding word, and everyone will just crease up in laughter. 

 

I, personally, call that a whole lot of fun.

 

I'd also like to reiterate that I don't have a problem which other's choice to not like it, or simply not want to try it. I just honestly believe that the social stigma surrounding many hallucinogenics is gravely misplaced - and that frustrates. All evidence and research comes to the same conclusion as I.

 

I apologise if I got a bit intense at times. But you know, considering I feel strongly about this subject, and that it's a controversial subject. I'd say I've remained pretty civil. Just think of the comments section on a political post on Facebook.


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Posted 25 April 2017 - 09:17 PM

No person or government has the right to tell me what I should or shouldn't put into my body. I have agency and the ability to decide whether something is good for me or not. There's just no excuse for a government to criminalise drug use, especially when so much habitual drug use is a medical problem, not a criminal one.

 

drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/cocaine/effects-of-cocaine.html

 

I think most, but not all drugs should be legal. I mean, the government makes certain drugs illegal to protect its citizens. You would die at an extremely young age if hardcore drugs like bath salts, cocaine, or crystal meth were heavily abused.



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Posted 26 April 2017 - 01:04 AM

People tend to do hard drugs because of their life circumstances. I believe rather than banning drugs, the government should be improving people's lives.

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Posted 26 April 2017 - 07:48 AM

So you think that meth should be legal?

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Posted 26 April 2017 - 08:48 AM

Pretty sure amphetamines are already legal. 


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Posted 26 April 2017 - 12:58 PM

So you think that meth should be legal?

 

Yes, why not? Is it stopping people dying because it's illegal? Or are we having tens of thousands of drug addicts suffering in prison with rapists and murderers because their life situation is fucked up and they've run out of options to try and find a happier place?


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Posted 26 April 2017 - 01:34 PM

Okay, no. I agree that america's drug policies are stupid and ass-backward when compared to real crimes, but no. That does not mean that that shit should be LEGAL.

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Posted 26 April 2017 - 02:09 PM

It can only be either illegal or legal, and I don't believe people should ever be punished for their health issues.


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Posted 26 April 2017 - 02:55 PM

drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/cocaine/effects-of-cocaine.html

 

I think most, but not all drugs should be legal. I mean, the government makes certain drugs illegal to protect its citizens. You would die at an extremely young age if hardcore drugs like bath salts, cocaine, or crystal meth were heavily abused.

 

I agree. Coke, Methamphetamine, Heroin - they're all are known to cause adverse effects from heavy use.

 

However, the are a number of other illegal substances which have been researched, studied and documented to have either no, or minimal adverse effect on mental health. I believe those should be decriminalised, and people to be educated on potential dangers and responsible use of these things.

 

And when the government stop wasting money trying to hunt down these "criminals", they can put the money into better addiction therapy support.

 

It doesn't really makes a difference if it's illegal or not, addicts gonna be addicts.


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 12:54 AM

Don't expect the Tories to do the moral or intelligent thing though aye.

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 05:50 AM

YOU WIN DRUGS!!!!!!

 

I'm going to have my first joint in over 2 1/2 or 3 years.

 

FUVK THE WORLD!!!! 

 

WELCOME BACK MARY JANE!!!!!!!


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Posted 29 April 2017 - 10:15 AM

Take it slow dude.

That long with nothing in our system and one joint is going to fuck your shit.

Obviously it won't do any harm, but too much of a good thing can give you a pretty shitty ride.


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Posted 29 April 2017 - 11:36 AM

Nah man roll the fattest fucking joint you can, you won't get this stoned again for a long time.

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