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#41 bookfloss

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 06:09 PM

Err, example?

 

Well the context was citing Hiroshima...


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 07:52 PM

Well the context was citing Hiroshima...

The original issue being the USA inflicting sanctions on Japan, which in turn led to them launching the attack on Pearl Harbor, which in turn led to the Nagasaki and Hiroshima bombings.

 

Violents beget violence. (and no, that's not a spelling error)


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 08:44 PM

The original issue being the USA inflicting sanctions on Japan, which in turn led to them launching the attack on Pearl Harbor, which in turn led to the Nagasaki and Hiroshima bombings.

 

I think you're missing my point in citing Heinlein's work. Don't sweat it. (He & I are both agreeing with you)


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 10:35 PM

The original issue being the USA inflicting sanctions on Japan, which in turn led to them launching the attack on Pearl Harbor, which in turn led to the Nagasaki and Hiroshima bombings.

 

Violents beget violence. (and no, that's not a spelling error)

 

Oh isn't it exciting when you find someone else who knows the back-story to Pearl Harbour?


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Posted 21 February 2014 - 07:39 AM

Oh isn't it exciting when you find someone else who knows the back-story to Pearl Harbour?

From a historical standpoint, the US has been inciting trouble in Japan for hundreds of years. The treaty of Kanegawa was enforced by Matthew Perry so that Westerners could enter Japan and be safe there. He enforced this by threatening to bombard Tokyo Bay with the fleet of warships he brought with him for his "peaceful negotiations". In fact, he destroyed part of the bay just to show the power of his fleet.

 

Ah, peace.


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Posted 21 February 2014 - 02:00 PM

You've also got the Washington Conference and ever Pacific treaty thereafter ratified which screwed Japan right up the arse.


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Posted 21 February 2014 - 02:17 PM

That too.

 

So really, it's surprising the Japanese government didn't snap before then.


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Posted 21 February 2014 - 05:58 PM

They couldn't afford to, they were too pre-occupied with rampaging through mainland Asia. You can't forget what the Japanese did to the Chinese in Manchuria in the first decades of the 20th century, and how they treated Korea, but purely in terms of Nippon-American relations, the Japanese actually had tried to make peace with America before WWII even began, peace envoys from both sides met on a few occasions.


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 03:26 AM

sorry for interrupting, I just wanted to say thank you, Архангельск :) I'll try to avoid attacking other people or dropping a radioactive bomb ;)

 

a BIG THANK YOU to everyone who replied to my post. you helped a lot ♥

 

 

 

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 04:12 AM

I think the worst of it for me is that I'm incredibly lonely.

 

Since i moved to a new city last spring I've been hearing from my old friends less and less often. With a mix of social anxiety and severe trust issues (not so good childhood as far as treatment from peers goes) I don't really have any idea how to make friends, and thus I've not made a single local friend the entire time Ive been here (will be a year in March/April.)

 

It's basically to the point were the only time I hear from anybody it's because I started the conversation and really, I'm tired of it. I'm fucking sick of being the only person who bothers to maintain friendships, even ones that have lasted for years. I've altogether stopped bothering because I'm just fucking tired of being the only one who bothers to initiate contact.

 

Because of said treatment and issues, I don't even know how to approach people to talk. I'm incredibly awkward, I can't manage any sort of small talk, I always draw blanks and never have anything to say with new people. I'm a bit of a wreck and it fucking sucks. I've been like this for years, I've gone and talk to specialists for treatment with absolutely no improvement. Weee.

I've pretty much grown used to being alone/shunned as that's what my entire school career was.

 

I'm not looking for advice or "go see a counselor/therapist" because that hasn't helped for fucking shit either, been there done that can't afford to waste the money on that bullshit again. I am where I am and that's what it is, best I can do is to cope really.

 

/drunken rant. Or vent. Whatever you prefer to call it.


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 05:09 AM

I think the worst of it for me is that I'm incredibly lonely.

 

Since i moved to a new city last spring I've been hearing from my old friends less and less often. With a mix of social anxiety and severe trust issues (not so good childhood as far as treatment from peers goes) I don't really have any idea how to make friends, and thus I've not made a single local friend the entire time Ive been here (will be a year in March/April.)

 

It's basically to the point were the only time I hear from anybody it's because I started the conversation and really, I'm tired of it. I'm fucking sick of being the only person who bothers to maintain friendships, even ones that have lasted for years. I've altogether stopped bothering because I'm just fucking tired of being the only one who bothers to initiate contact.

 

Because of said treatment and issues, I don't even know how to approach people to talk. I'm incredibly awkward, I can't manage any sort of small talk, I always draw blanks and never have anything to say with new people. I'm a bit of a wreck and it fucking sucks. I've been like this for years, I've gone and talk to specialists for treatment with absolutely no improvement. Weee.

I've pretty much grown used to being alone/shunned as that's what my entire school career was.

 

I'm not looking for advice or "go see a counselor/therapist" because that hasn't helped for fucking shit either, been there done that can't afford to waste the money on that bullshit again. I am where I am and that's what it is, best I can do is to cope really.

 

/drunken rant. Or vent. Whatever you prefer to call it.

so if not for advice what are you looking for?

you can be my friend if you like :) but just so I warned you I don't like people much..


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 09:14 AM

I don't really have any idea how to make friends, and thus I've not made a single local friend the entire time Ive been here (will be a year in March/April.)

 

You can be my friend too - especially if you like talking about movies.  :)

 

(That's two friend offers - maybe you're not as bad at making friends as you think. ^_^


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 09:17 AM

just out of interest.... do you know your MBTI type?

 

if more than two friends aren't too much for you, I'm also offering my friendship-services ;)


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 11:43 AM

sorry for interrupting, I just wanted to say thank you, Архангельск :) I'll try to avoid attacking other people or dropping a radioactive bomb ;)

 

a BIG THANK YOU to everyone who replied to my post. you helped a lot ♥

 

I was going to reply to your message but it looks like the community have already done so. Glad t2 know that the thread is being utilized well.  #GLHF

 

 

I think the worst of it for me is that I'm incredibly lonely.

 

Since i moved to a new city last spring I've been hearing from my old friends less and less often. With a mix of social anxiety and severe trust issues (not so good childhood as far as treatment from peers goes) I don't really have any idea how to make friends, and thus I've not made a single local friend the entire time Ive been here (will be a year in March/April.)

 

It's basically to the point were the only time I hear from anybody it's because I started the conversation and really, I'm tired of it. I'm fucking sick of being the only person who bothers to maintain friendships, even ones that have lasted for years. I've altogether stopped bothering because I'm just fucking tired of being the only one who bothers to initiate contact.

 

Because of said treatment and issues, I don't even know how to approach people to talk. I'm incredibly awkward, I can't manage any sort of small talk, I always draw blanks and never have anything to say with new people. I'm a bit of a wreck and it fucking sucks. I've been like this for years, I've gone and talk to specialists for treatment with absolutely no improvement. Weee.

I've pretty much grown used to being alone/shunned as that's what my entire school career was.

 

I'm not looking for advice or "go see a counselor/therapist" because that hasn't helped for fucking shit either, been there done that can't afford to waste the money on that bullshit again. I am where I am and that's what it is, best I can do is to cope really.

 

/drunken rant. Or vent. Whatever you prefer to call it.

 

Yeah, I kinda know how that feels. I used 2 suffer from social anxiety. My solution? I developed a hobby. Music has helped a lot for me as I hate approaching people lol. I just unleash on the mic, finish up, then people come up 2 have a chat. Music came about out of 200% sheer boredom, kept the mind busy. 

In other words join a club or something (even if it's 40k) Meet like minded dorks (for me it was talking 2 gamers) Find mutual interests!!!! Just a suggestion bro.


I haven't heard from a few of my good old mates in awhile, but I can understand, because they have to live their lives and so do I. Friends come and go, way of life man!!!

 

Therapy sucks, just people taking your money to listen to you talk. You just need 2 get out there son..... or gal? Anyway I kinda like the idea of starting over, I plan to do so in Japan. THAT will be a good testament for me. 

 

Well that's my 10 cents.....

 

#GLHF!!!!
 


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 12:21 PM

so if not for advice what are you looking for?

you can be my friend if you like :) but just so I warned you I don't like people much..

Yeah I'm up for having more people to talk to.

 

You can be my friend too - especially if you like talking about movies.  :)

 

(That's two friend offers - maybe you're not as bad at making friends as you think. ^_^

I don't mind movies, I usually watch movies on a livestream site with a small group of people on weekends/some weekdays.

 

just out of interest.... do you know your MBTI type?

 

if more than two friends aren't too much for you, I'm also offering my friendship-services ;)

Don't know it offhand, no.

Yeah I don't mind having more people to talk to. :D

 

Yeah, I kinda know how that feels. I used 2 suffer from social anxiety. My solution? I developed a hobby. Music has helped a lot for me as I hate approaching people lol. I just unleash on the mic, finish up, then people come up 2 have a chat. Music came about out of 200% sheer boredom, kept the mind busy. 

In other words join a club or something (even if it's 40k) Meet like minded dorks (for me it was talking 2 gamers) Find mutual interests!!!! Just a suggestion bro.


I haven't heard from a few of my good old mates in awhile, but I can understand, because they have to live their lives and so do I. Friends come and go, way of life man!!!

 

Therapy sucks, just people taking your money to listen to you talk. You just need 2 get out there son..... or gal? Anyway I kinda like the idea of starting over, I plan to do so in Japan. THAT will be a good testament for me. 

 

Well that's my 10 cents.....

 

#GLHF!!!!
 

I plan on getting back into martial arts once I'm working and have the money again, I haven't done much research on gaming groups/clubs in the area, but from my experience many of those revolve around word of mouth and who you know. We will see though.


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 12:44 PM

My woman has had the same problems that you are having, almost exactly.

Eerily so.

 

As sad as it is, when you move away from where your friends live they tend to drift away.

It isn't as easy as when you were right down the street, or in the same area with the same hangouts.

 

Social anxiety/awkwardness sucks for sure.

You, like my lady, seem to be the type the needs someone else to be the instigator of social interaction for it to happen.

There is nothing wrong with that of course.


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 01:31 PM

Yeah I can say I understand too, the moment my friends went to university our lives just drifted a part, we stayed in touch a little, every now and again I'll talk to one of them but it's usually a one way street. It doesn't bother me though because I'm hardly making the effort either.

 

My response, go to a foreign country for 6 months and go crazy. ;)


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 02:46 PM

Yeah, Gol, how is that working out for you?


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 05:00 PM

Goooood, my girlfriend is more adorable in person than I could have expected, the downtown city is gorgeous and we live like, two minutes from the woods. Happy Gol is happy.

 

Fuck you depression!! X3


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 05:16 PM

Social anxiety/awkwardness sucks for sure.

You, like my lady, seem to be the type the needs someone else to be the instigator of social interaction for it to happen.

There is nothing wrong with that of course.

Yep, that's actually how I've made almost all the friendships that I had back in my home town, they approached me or other friends of mine that approached me introduced us.

 

Yeah I can say I understand too, the moment my friends went to university our lives just drifted a part, we stayed in touch a little, every now and again I'll talk to one of them but it's usually a one way street. It doesn't bother me though because I'm hardly making the effort either.

 

My response, go to a foreign country for 6 months and go crazy. ;)

Heh, if I could afford to travel I would consider that for sure lol.


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