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#1 DaRatmastah

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 12:00 AM

Hey folks, I want to make a giant pile of money, and I would like to do it without having to go back to school and/or become an indentured servant to a company for the rest of my useful life.

 

Basically I want to be my own boss, and make a ton of dough.  Preferably legally.

 

Anyone have any ideas?  We can make this just a general brainstorming thread, too, because I'm sure many of you have the same desire.

 

 

Ideas I have tried/am trying:

Amazon referrals

Writing eBooks(erotica so far, some non-erotica soon)

Youtube adverts

Owning/operating my karate dojo(not really a money grab, but I WILL be making money off it some day, so I needed to put it in)

 

Ideas I have tried and failed at:

Making computer games

Selling t-shirts

Independent web design business

Independent computer repair business

 

Feel free to ask me about any of my experiences in these various endeavors, I'm more than happy to talk about both my successes and failures =D



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Posted 23 November 2013 - 03:31 AM

Drugs.... Selling buttloads of DRRRRRRRRUUUUUUGGGGGSSSSSS.........

 

Or resort to prostitution......


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 06:23 AM

Man, any ideas I have for making bucket loads of cash are strictly confidential. >.>

 

I think, you look at the sort of fields that are booming, or about to boom: exotic fuels, 3D printing, OLED TV's etc and you realise you need either a tonne of start up capital, or a PhD in the appropriate field. You can just hope the wind will blow into your sails as well but if you get left adrift there's nop hope and you could loose everything.

 

I wouldn't mind owning my own shop at some point, some grungy computer repair/ retro tech sales place would be awesomesauce.


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 07:15 AM

I'd thought it would be cool to own and operate a cafe.

In terms of making money,

Start a blog, get popular,make money off ad revenue.
Amazon referrals to
Isn't there a job where you just write keywords for search engines?

I just read an article on this on lifehacker. Too lazy to find it though

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 07:57 AM

I think unless you have a super-awesome idea already for something that hasn't been done, you're going to have to become a servant to "the man" until you have enough money to start your own business.

 

Indie/phone gaming seems to be a boom at the moment though. Make a half-assed quiz app, put it on the iPhone/Android marketplaces for like 30c, watch the cash (slowly) mount up as retards buy your crap.

 

I've seen it happen, and it takes minimal effort.


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 08:17 AM

Any business you want to make money off of requires some combination of work, passion and luck. My brothers run their own landscaping service (snow removal in winter), during non winter months they work 7 days a week sunrise to sunset. In the winter if it looks like it's going to snow at 2am they're up and ready to go at 1:30am. Obviously they work hard and enjoy their work but without a bit of luck finding the right clients at the right time I don't think they'd be where they are.

 

I firmly believe if you're trying to run your own business and be your own boss you need to live that shit. It's not a job, after your family it is the first thing on your mind.

 

Whatever your idea is - be kind, be passionate, run it right and hope your lucky break comes sooner than later. If you're not willing to dedicate that much it's not going to pay the dividends.



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Posted 23 November 2013 - 08:46 AM

Any business you want to make money off of requires some combination of work, passion and luck. My brothers run their own landscaping service (snow removal in winter), during non winter months they work 7 days a week sunrise to sunset. In the winter if it looks like it's going to snow at 2am they're up and ready to go at 1:30am. Obviously they work hard and enjoy their work but without a bit of luck finding the right clients at the right time I don't think they'd be where they are.

 

I firmly believe if you're trying to run your own business and be your own boss you need to live that shit. It's not a job, after your family it is the first thing on your mind.

 

Whatever your idea is - be kind, be passionate, run it right and hope your lucky break comes sooner than later. If you're not willing to dedicate that much it's not going to pay the dividends.

Pretty much this.

I have to put everything I have in to my business to make it happen on a daily basis.

It isn't something that you just coast through and laugh at your giant pile of money.

 

You are wanting what we all want.

Money without the effort, and unfortunately that just doesn't happen.

 

If you want to find some project that makes you money, figure out a niche market and become the best at it.

Not easy, but that is how people make money.


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 08:57 AM

Oh, don't worry, I'm not looking for a "get rich quick without time/effort involved."  I'm perfectly fine with working extremely hard/all the time for what I want.  As long as it's for me.  I'm just trying to figure out a decent bet with high profit margins to invest in.

No worries, I'm no stranger to hard work and have no illusions about things being easy.  I just want to find something better than my current appliance sales job.



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Posted 24 November 2013 - 11:36 AM

1: Acquire job

 

2: Receive paycheck.

 

3: Take paycheck, deposit it for cash at the bank.

 

4: Pile money on bed.


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Posted 24 November 2013 - 06:59 PM

1: Acquire job

 

2: Receive paycheck.

 

3: Take paycheck, deposit it for cash at the bank.

 

4: Pile money on bed.

DAMMIT!  If only I had read this before I sold my bed!



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 10:11 AM

Invest in stocks that pay dividends. (blue chips)  Then let those dividends reinvest themselves.  With continued investment, not only will you be able to retire... but you can live off the dividends during your retirement and not eat away at a giant pile that will ultimately run out.

 

You can register with sites like sharebuilder and purchase shares quite easily.  I like to look at the big index funds out there and see where their investments are.

 

(An index fund is just that, and Index of Stocks owned within a single portfolio.  So many people put their money together and invest in the index fund.  However, you wont get dividends the same way you would if you bought the stocks outright on your own)

 

For example, my 401k at work is maintained through Vanguard.  They have many index funds:

https://institutiona...ews?cl=00000103

 

 

A portion of my 401k uses the 2030 Target Retirement Fund VTHRX, which has yielded about 18%.  Realize the earlier you retire, the lower your return rate will be... but the risk goes down.  If you are planning to retire much later (2060), you can invest in a fund that has a higher risk, but greater returns.  Just remember as you get older, to migrate your investments into lower risk holdings... so you dont starve to death if an entire sector suffers for a few years.  That's another point, diversify investments... don't put everything in Apple.

 

If you look at the underlying funds in the index fund portfolio you will find: https://institutiona...ils?fundId=0695, that 54% of that fund is their "Total Stock Market Index", look at the Portfolio for that: https://institutiona...iew?fundId=0085

 

AND BAM! There is where Vanguard stores their money! BLUE CHIP STOCKS THAT PAY DIVIDENDS:

1 Apple Inc. 2 Exxon Mobil Corp. 3 Google Inc. 4 General Electric Co. 5 Microsoft Corp. 6 Johnson & Johnson 7 Chevron Corp. 8 Wells Fargo & Co. 9 Procter & Gamble Co. 10 Berkshire Hathaway Inc.

 

When you consider this,

1.) You continue to buy stocks with your savings for 20 years.

2.) The stocks you buy mature, split and return growth like a normal savings account. (exponential growth?)

3.) The stocks are paying you divdends 4 times a year, that you are re-investing (aka step 1 above)

 

lets say you buy $100,000 of JNJ now:

@ Currently $95/share = 1010 Shares.

@ Currently $0.66/quarter = $2,666/year

 

With the 2,666 reinvested... $102,666 is your new investment value... without considering the actual growth of the companies value and potetial increase in dividends.

 

I can't even begin to do the math on that^ alone over 20 years...

 

Usually you want to wait for these big companies to split and have the shares split price before buying up a few hundred bucks worth... I picked up JnJ 2 years ago after a split for ~60/share.  Ultimately, you can gain a HUGE pile of money by investing the money you do make.  And of course its a time factor... the longer you keep your money invested, the more you'll make.

 

Here are some of my recent google quotes by symbol.  You'll notice almost all of them have shown growth over the last few years, pay dividends and are actually affordable. (maybe not Google and Amazon) If you get the chance, next time there is an economic crisis, and the market is shit... BUY EVERYTHING so you can ride the money pile up while the market bounces back. If it doesnt ever bounce back... well then your money pile wont be worth the paper it's printed on anyway.

 

 

INTC
SLB
WMT
PEP
MRK
AMZN
PM
C
VZ
BAC
KO
T
IBM
PFE
WFC
CVX
JNJ
MSFT
GE

 

Just my 2 cents... pun intended.



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 10:19 AM

Also if you're smart... you would have done something like... i donno... Invest in Netflix when the dropped to $60 a share due to their controversy with the company split.  They are now $350/share. Any Nerd could have told you last year that Netflix wasn't going away, and that it was just a slump.

 

Aka, use the knowledge you have about your favorite industry to make quick get rich investments, just realize there is always risk. Also, the Netflix scenario is 180 degrees from the Blue Chip Stock investment advice.  The only problem with blue chips is that you might get hit by a bus before your investments mature.



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 01:25 PM

Excellent investment advice gentlemen, thanks!



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 04:55 PM

Also penny stocks! Volatile as Mt. St. Helens in 1980 but if you wanna take a risk and you're not greedy (i.e. you get in, you get out), they can pay off on a small scale. Problem is you gotta look out for artificial price inflation, it's hard to spot but if the shares rise in value enormously over a few days, it means one rich guy is pumping money in, buying shares to generate interest only to sell everything and flood the market days later.


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 09:18 PM

Also penny stocks! Volatile as Mt. St. Helens in 1980 but if you wanna take a risk and you're not greedy (i.e. you get in, you get out), they can pay off on a small scale. Problem is you gotta look out for artificial price inflation, it's hard to spot but if the shares rise in value enormously over a few days, it means one rich guy is pumping money in, buying shares to generate interest only to sell everything and flood the market days later.

 

 

 

Agreed.  People have made money from penny stock trading.  However... "a giant pile of money"... let's just say that would take a lot of careful penny trading.

 

Also true.  Bloomberg I believe holds the most real-time data for stock trades.  And we are talking microseconds.  They use twitter trends and various "news feeds" to cross reference with market trade data and determine when something is going to buy/sell.(Using big data hadoop/openstack/oozie/hbase/etc.)

 

Then with limited user intervention, they can purchase up to several millions of dollars worth of shares, to create all kinds of desired market effects.  This is why people see penny stocks shoot up in some kind of telecommunications sector, when they want you to believe that part of the market is doing well.  Meanwhile, AT&T and Verizon are plummeting in value due to some law scandal.  

 

Personally, I would stay away from investing in volatile stocks.  A casino can give you a much better experience for the same net loss.  And you can probably find all kinds of sexy people around a casino if you have enough free drinks.  Which won't be affordable (the drinks or the sexy people), because good prices in the market are driven up by greedy old white bald men with all the blue chip stocks and money.



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Posted 27 November 2013 - 01:00 PM

For the love of everything, do NOT open a restaurant.

 

That is the OPPOSITE of fast cash.


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Posted 02 December 2013 - 03:57 PM

For the love of everything, do NOT open a restaurant.

 

That is the OPPOSITE of fast cash.

 

Agreed. aka: Slow Debt.



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Posted 03 December 2013 - 10:06 AM

Buy oil, buy it now and buy lots. Then wait for the UN-Iran talks to break down. Tarrifs will go back up and oil production will go down, prices will rise and then you sell sell sell.


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