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[The Seldom Seen Kid]

"A woman dropped a stone and cracked his skull. Hurriedly he called to his armour bearer, 'Draw your sword and kill me, so that they can't say a woman killed me.' So his servant ran him through and he died." Oh religion, what are we going to do with you, you little rascal.

[Mister Sympa]

This episode of QI pretty much summed up everything I needed to know about Christianity:

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=xlaczo5oers

 

As for me, devout atheist. Life gets on better without some cosmic Big Brother or some obnoxious, hateful preacher telling people what to do.

Morality. Not religion.

[Sethre]

It still appears to justify rape, though. Which is something I cannot forgive. And that's not the only part of the Bible that is horrendous by today's standards, which leads me to draw two conclusions, both equally plausible.

 

1. Christianity (as seen in the Bible) is false, meaning that people who abide by religion's laws and use them to justify their hatred of people who don't fit in with their clique are just using it as a cover.

 

-or-

 

2. Christianity (as seen in the Bible) is true, and all of the so-called believers of today are in fact liars who twist the original implications of the religious text to fit their own lives. Assuming they've even read it. (I've read the Bible cover to cover; I used to be quite devout until my early teens).

 

 

 

Correct. Is that acceptable? If you were raped, would you wish to marry the person who put you through a violent, painful ordeal filled with terror and disgust? It states, he must marry her; she does not have a say in the matter. This is reprehensible. Inhumane, even. Granted, women were not afforded rights in the time which the Bible is set in/written, but that merely lends aid to my earlier point (point 2, because if we worked based on the belief it is all true, then as a woman I should have no rights or say in my own life)

 

A large part of the scriptures I just flat out don't understand. The binding of Isaac, for example (Genesis 22) is nonsensical. Why exactly did God want to test Abraham's faith by having him kill his own child? Of course, in the end God stopped it, claiming that Abraham's willingness to kill his child showed that he feared God. I don't understand quite to what end this was. 

 

But one thing that really throws me off the Christianity train is Sumer. The Sumerian Creation Myths predate Christian teachings, yet share some very similar tales. I'm of the opinion that they are more believable, having been created long before the more modern religions.

 

/rambling

Yeah I mean like ive said a few times I'm not the best guy to give answers. I'm still learning more and more myself, plus I don't know that much to be able to give answers to you guys.

[Sethre]

I'm just happy I'm not being shunned for being the only Christian here. At least I dont think I'm being shunned...

[Bowsette]

Yeah I mean like ive said a few times I'm not the best guy to give answers. I'm still learning more and more myself, plus I don't know that much to be able to give answers to you guys.

This may help you then. They're questions rarely asked So you may get a more intimate grasp of religion from them.

[Mister Sympa]

I'm just happy I'm not being shunned for being the only Christian here. At least I dont think I'm being shunned...

 

I shun hateful bastards. No, I take out hateful bastards; I shun morons. No, I mock morons; I shun...

 

Not a whole lot of people, actually...

 

I see absolutely no reason to hate on someone just for what they believe. Seriously, 1950 was a fuck-lot of time ago, and it was bullshit then.

[Affray]

I'm just happy I'm not being shunned for being the only Christian here. At least I dont think I'm being shunned...

You could worship the devil under a full moon and eat a diet of strictly hard boiled eggs and I don't think I would judge you any differently.

I may comment on the smell, because of the eggs, but that is about as far as it would go.

[Calvary]

I'd like to ask (this isn't meant to sound as horrible as it does), but why do you adhere to a faith you repeatedly admit you don't seem to know much about? You can still believe in a god without necessarily being a Christian, or any singular religion.

[The Robstar]

What about Demon possession? I know of at least 2 people who have apparently fallen victim to a demon or impure spirit. However one of them took heavy drugs and the others family had a long history of mental illnesses. I believe that demonic possession is due to a weak mind, kind of like hypnosis. 

[Bowsette]

I'd like to ask (this isn't meant to sound as horrible as it does), but why do you adhere to a faith you repeatedly admit you don't seem to know much about? You can still believe in a god without necessarily being a Christian, or any singular religion.

I would also like to hear this answer.

[Sethre]

I'd like to ask (this isn't meant to sound as horrible as it does), but why do you adhere to a faith you repeatedly admit you don't seem to know much about? You can still believe in a god without necessarily being a Christian, or any singular religion.

Well it's not that I dont know anything. What I mean when I say that is that I'm not the person to ask, because yes I'll have an answer but it's not going to be an answer that hits it on the head or makes perfect sense like someone else whose been a Christian for longer would have. 

 

So yeah, what I'm trying to say is that I know stuff, just not enough to be the guru that has all the answers and knows everything.

[Sethre]

Also I have a question of my own for you guys. Why do atheist and other people that don't believe there is a god/God say 'Oh my god'? It just seems pretty silly to say if you believe there isn't a God.

[Bowsette]

Also I have a question of my own for you guys. Why do atheist and other people that don't believe there is a god/God say 'Oh my god'? It just seems pretty silly to say if you believe there isn't a God.

Simple answer: Culture. "Oh my god" and "Jesus Christ" and "go to hell" are all phrases that I've seen/heard from a young age. As a result, I've picked them up and I often use them even when I'm not thinking about doing so. A sort of knee-jerk reaction, like how you'll type lol when you're not actually laughing.

[Bowsette]

Plus, "oh my science!" doesn't sound right.

[Calvary]

It's an expression more than anything. I say, 'oh my god,' because it's quicker than saying 'oh my Big Bang'.

 

Even if you don't think you can explain, you should always give it a go, you'll never have all the answers to be a 'guru' because your high-up officials make sure a lot of information on your religion is kept secret. May as well give it our best whack with the limited information you have.

 

Again, that's not meant to be offensive, just might appear matter-of-factly.

[Sethre]

Simple answer: Culture. "Oh my god" and "Jesus Christ" and "go to hell" are all phrases that I've seen/heard from a young age. As a result, I've picked them up and I often use them even when I'm not thinking about doing so. A sort of knee-jerk reaction, like how you'll type lol when you're not actually laughing.

Ah ok, I was guessing the answer would be something like that but I wasn't sure if there was something deeper that went on with it.

 

Plus, "oh my science!" doesn't sound right.

True true, but I imagine some people say that.

[Sethre]

It's an expression more than anything. I say, 'oh my god,' because it's quicker than saying 'oh my Big Bang'.

 

Even if you don't think you can explain, you should always give it a go, you'll never have all the answers to be a 'guru' because your high-up officials make sure a lot of information on your religion is kept secret. May as well give it our best whack with the limited information you have.

 

Again, that's not meant to be offensive, just might appear matter-of-factly.

Gotcha.

 

That's true. I usually never do that because I never like to sound like an idiot, or give false information.

 

Don't worry, I didn't take it as such.

[Calvary]

You should just take a mish-mash from all the best bits of every religion you know and practice however you like rather than call yourself a Christian. An all-seeing all-knowing god isn't gonna care how you worship it, just that you do I expect. May as well have fun with it at the same time.

 

I shall worship the lord (or lady) by having a big orgy in its name.

[Sethre]

You should just take a mish-mash from all the best bits of every religion you know and practice however you like rather than call yourself a Christian. An all-seeing all-knowing god isn't gonna care how you worship it, just that you do I expect. May as well have fun with it at the same time.

 

I shall worship the lord (or lady) by having a big orgy in its name.

Tis true, I  guess we'll see how I end up in the future.

[Calvary]

What made you decide to become a Christian any who? I know a lot of people who left but I don't know anyone who joined of their own accord. =o