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#21 Fox The Cat

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 09:25 PM

I would say it's because he's 15 and perhaps a little naive but my brother is the same age, he watched, found it abhorrent and then had a discussion with me about it at a philosophical level...so, there's no real excuse.

 

I am very naive.

 

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#22 Silver_rose

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 10:42 PM

I am very naive.

 

Oh, and sorry if you think there is something wrong with me v.v I didn't mean to speak my mind it just happens.... Sorry.

 

In a certain sense you are right, it's just shocking that you'd be so insensitive about it


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 06:03 AM

The thing is, these guys can't be held in these conditions any way, they are, for arguments sake, soldiers and therefore, one must detain them under the protocols of the Geneva Convention. So if they are ever put on trial, the only thing they will find out at the tribunal is that yes, they are soldiers.The US government can't therefore, put them on trial. The hypocrisy is that the American armed forced (and indeed many liberating forces in Iraq and Afghanistan) has committed atrocities on par with what the Guantanamo convicts are supposedly being held for. If you look back to the beginning of the Iraq war, one of the first things America did, literally within the first few days, was air strike a school bus full of young children because they didn't double check their intelligence. No person should be held in such conditions, nor tortured (ignoring the argument about whether torture actually gives reliable intelligence).


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:02 AM

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I'm not opposed to anyone speaking their mind, but if you're going to give your opinion, it's best you be prepared for people to disagree with you. Perhaps quite strongly.

I was only speaking my mind as well, after all.
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 08:10 PM

I guess your right. I've seen 2 or 3 documentations on this place. One with real footage and one where people volunteered to go through what it is like in there. I thought they were actually poorly treated, but they may have done things that are not right. But I really don't know what to say now.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:50 AM

Eh don't worry about it, I overreacted a little.


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