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Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:38 AM

Save up, because it appears they made a new tier for 7800IP champs. I clicked on my Victor randomly and before it popped up saying "champion owned" I am almost certain it displayed 7800IP cost. I can only think of him and Thresh atm that are 7800. I don't know why though, since neither Viktor or Thresh appear to be all that good. >.>

Edit: I was wrong, Viktor is 6300. Fuck my eyes. derp.

But yeah, I think if they keep releasing 7800IP champs we could see a whole new tier coming. However I have yet to see Thresh used effectively, and he doesn't seem to be very useful as a support. Yes, he has a slow and a stun, but aside from that he doesn't seem to be very tough. I'd call him a glass cannon, but he doesn't appear to have the health/armour to last long enough to tank effectively, and his damage output is subpar.

The 7800IP cost is just for the first week a champion is released. Viktor should only be 6300 and Thresh should be price dropped today I think.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 11:09 AM

I have 6300 again and every champ unlocked, plus all the runes I need. Wat do.


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Posted 30 January 2013 - 11:30 AM

The 7800IP cost is just for the first week a champion is released. Viktor should only be 6300 and Thresh should be price dropped today I think.


Why do they make it cost MORE the first week? Seems counterproductive, as usually things are offered cheaper when first released, then increased after x amount of time. Also, is that a new thing? I'm sure Nami was 6300 on release >.> not sure about Vi as I wasn't playing when she came out.

Also, I just got a pretty good game. I joined late (LoL crashed with no error message, then took ages to load ._.) and the guy playing Ziggs was afk until near the end of laning. I managed to pull it back and be the first to 18, and even though we were winning (Malhazar is my bitch as Ahri, I swear. Guy couldn't touch me xD) the Ziggs kept trying to call a surrender vote. Not sure if I should've reported him after or not...

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 11:36 AM

Why do they make it cost MORE the first week? Seems counterproductive, as usually things are offered cheaper when first released, then increased after x amount of time. Also, is that a new thing? I'm sure Nami was 6300 on release >.> not sure about Vi as I wasn't playing when she came out.

Also, I just got a pretty good game. I joined late (LoL crashed with no error message, then took ages to load ._.) and the guy playing Ziggs was afk until near the end of laning. I managed to pull it back and be the first to 18, and even though we were winning (Malhazar is my bitch as Ahri, I swear. Guy couldn't touch me xD) the Ziggs kept trying to call a surrender vote. Not sure if I should've reported him after or not...

Yarr, Thresh was the first they did it with. When you buy a champion with IP they are getting no $$$ from you, if you buy it with RP (which doesn't have a cost increase) they enjoy your monies. It also alleviates the flood of people playing champs the first week of release.

You know, you'll have some pretty good [dominion] games if you make an NA account tonight. <_<

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 11:38 AM

Wahah. Sadly I can't, I have to be up for 6AM tomorrow (midnight CST) ._. fuck time zones man.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 11:40 AM

Psh, 8pm central is only like 2AM london time... if you do 2 or 3 games that still gives you like 3 hours of sleep. I'm sure you've functioned on less. ;D

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:40 PM

Invites going out in 20, add emosaurusrex on NA if you want in.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:45 AM

This is what happens when I drink 2 litres of Relentless Inferno (energy drink) after 3 hours sleep.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:25 PM



Big patch incoming. Getting rid of elo in favour of a ton of 250-player leagues, nerfing Shaco, Yi, and Olaf. Good >.> fucking hate going against Olaf. Him and Mundo. They're nerfing Giant's Belt/Warmog Armor, which is REALLY going to fuck up Mundo as most of the Mundos I've played against lately have gone for at least three Warmogs, making them effectively invincible in anything aside from 5v1. Also, new item; Seekers Armguards, a mage AD equip that's apparently made for mid. Sounds like my Ahri might be getting a sweet-ass buff >.>

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:31 PM

I'm a little upset about the Olaf nerfs, he's my go to jungler if we have a tank top. Oh wells, he was a bit too strong but the nerf to Undertow is too much.

The nerf to Giant's Belt is merely a stat balancing thing, it gave a disproportionate amount of stats per gold and errybody hopping on the warmogs bandwagon.

The Seekers Armguard is to help deal with bruisers/assassins mid (ie xin, khaz, talon). It's situational but against any of the aforementioned it's gonna be great. x:

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:49 PM

I've only ever seen Olaf used badly as jungle. Usually on my damn team >.> Doesn't help lanes, manages to die in camps etc. Yet whenever he's used against me (especially one game with a Kha'Zix/Olaf bot vs. me as Ahri and Miss Fortune) he facerolled the shit out of us, which led to me eventually running off into the jungle to build up a little gold, because I was getting squat from laning. I could only really hurt those two by using Teleport for reverse tower-dives so I'm glad he'll be slightly squishier.

Ive been having a bad run of games lately. Getting teamed with 4 people from x country and not knowing what the fuck they're saying/doing because they don't call ss, don't ping, or at one point decided to go 3 mid, leading to a nasty triple >.> Makes me wish there was a UK server lol at least then I'd have more luck with finding people I can gel with.

Also, I love how champ picks are changing now. I haven't played against a Darius or Teemo in about 5 games, but I've seen Viktor, Singed, Sejuani, and even a Galio at one point. I get sick of playing against teams of basically the same champs over and over, so seeing some variety is great. Plus I'm back to practicing with Lux and Fiora for a bit of a change from fucking shit up with Ahri all the time. Kinda tempted not to go for Riven yet, now. I have 6200IP so one or two more games will give me enough for any champ, but I can't decide who yet. Probably a melee/tank. I'm also somewhat tempted to pick up Fiddlesticks and get some practice jungling >.>

Edit: http://euw.leagueofl...patch-301-notes

Fuck they're getting rid of the mana regen on Nashor's Tooth? ;-; that's one of my midgames for Lux. DICKS. On the plus side, Jarvan IV will be in co-op vs. AI. Yay for a little more diversity, though I really wish they'd make it so ALL champs were available as AIs. That'd be suweeeeet.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 08:37 AM

On the plus side athene's is 200g cheaper, which I would consider a staple of lux. x:
Fiddle is a deceivingly good jungle right now. I've been wanting to play him for a while but I have a few problems with him
  • You force a tank top or a Leona bot (ie, fiddle is extremely niche)
  • Picking jungle fid is like putting a giant sign over your head saying PLEASE COME KILL ME AT BLUE. You get denied blue and you're shut down pretty hard.
  • Awkward build path. You want a zhonya's on him but it's so expensive; having to wait for 1600g for a rod in the jungle really sucks. Having seekers armguard build into might alleviate this and give him a little more mid game power.
Maybe I'll put enough points into support for the free ward and buy one ward at the start so I can clear safely until I get rank 2 fear. I really want to play him now, lol.
Thinking about doing something like this and starting boots/mana pot/ward or crystalline flask/ward. Have the 60 second ward to protect from invade and a full ward to protect myself at red. Farm until 3 or 4 (gank @3 if convenient otherwise wait till 4) on first back pick up seekers armguards (or at least some of it) and some mana pots or a faeri charm (I haven't jungled him since s2, not sure how mana dependent he's going to be) or boots if I start flask.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:28 PM

I was playing with a jungle Fid earlier. He was mainly having a squabble with the mid Riven (who played like shit because they were constantly insulting Fiddle, solo top Thresh and my bot lanemate's Sivir). Cue me being the only one on our team with a k/d of more than 1:1 (specifically I was 11/3 by the time the enemy team surrendered at 23 mins). I pretty much carried all three lanes my fucking self, lol. Vi is such a powerhouse I'm glad I bought her instead of Riven >.>

The entire game went something like this.

*5 minutes of Fiddle/Riven arguing over who should go mid*
*Fiddle rushes into enemy jungle, gets killed*
*Riven calls Fiddle noob faggot, Riven gets killed by tower*
*Vi gets double on Kayle/Teemo*
*Riven calls Vi hacker*
*Thresh dies vs. enemy Vi*
*Riven calls Thresh noob faggot*
*Riven calls entire team faggots*
*Vi solos dragon then rescues Riven from gank*
*Riven claims ks, dies*

I hope this shit gets a bit weaker once I hit 30 >.>

Edit: Got a pretty good build for Vi going on. Gonna change it up a bit next game though. I usually start building for Black Cleaver, then Trinity Force, Wit's End, Wriggle's Lantern, Berzerker Greaves, Warmogs. Thinking of aiming for Wriggle's first next, and subbing Black Cleaver for Ravenous Hydra. By endgame I was nigh-invincible, aside from when I got hit with silence/stun from Garen/Elise. I was mid though, not sure if I'll need different equips for top/bot, as I roamed quite a bit anyway, took wolves/wraiths whenever they spawned - her E makes short, short work of them.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:50 PM

It gets better. I still get a fair amount of people who have absolutely 0 idea what they're doing but nowhere near as bad as when I was leveling.
New ranked leagues... time to powerqueue tonight. :x

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:59 PM

Apparently the patch raped the fuck out of EUW servers >.> can't login, and people already logged in can't queue games. Time to make that NA account...

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:18 PM

Kso.

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I HAVE NO CHAMPS EXCEPT FREE ONES ON NA AND I HATE ALL THE FREE ONES EXCEPT RIVEN BUT RIVEN ALWAYS GETS PICKED FAST GRAAAAAAGHHHHHH

played as Maokai, was pretty good. Jungle's a bit iffy with him though.

Edit: Jungle Vi = gg. Ended up with almost 500 monster/creep kills, almost 500 damage per basic attack, and a lifesteal total of 65%, plus Ravenous Hydra's AoE. Add that to her E and basically you go from having almost no health left to being max health with 10% armor in one punch. Ruinousssssssss.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:26 AM

Yeah, Vi's ganks are kind of weak before six, but her clear is insaaaaane. What did you build besides hydra?

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 10:33 AM

Wriggle's Lantern, Berzerker Greaves, Ravenous Hydra, 3x Bloodthirsters. Might switch out a Bloodthirster for Trinity Force though, it depends on how fast I can clear camps and if I can get to bunched-up enemy minions quick. Aimed right, one E clears 10+ of them, and if any survive one basic clears the rest.

I'm really getting into jungling now. I decided instead of buying a Riven skin to buy Sejuani with my remaining RP, built her for mid jungle. Not very good 1v1 until 6+, but holy shit as soon as she pops that ult it's basically a guaranteed kill. Sadly we won before I could complete my build though :( ended 8/1/6 with Wriggle's Lantern, Spirit of the Ancient Golem, Spirit of the Spectral Wraith, 2x Rejuvenation Beads, and Vampiric Scepter (which was going to become Ravenous Hydra).

Any general tips for jungling? Since I get stuck with randoms who usually don't speak English, I have no reliable method of leashing blue/red at the beginning, so I tend to just run wraith/wolf camps, pop out and wipe some creeps in lane, then dive back to wraith/wolf when they respawn. Once I gain a couple levels I head for red, then up to blue, hit wolf/wraith, then if possible gank bot. Would've been top, but there was a really good Riven/Yi team last game, so top was basically impervious to all damage.

Also, since I hit level 20, should I start picking up runes? Or should I wait til 30 and just stockpile IP? Also, which ones would be the best for me? Currently I main Lux, Ahri and Vi, and I'm planning to main Sejuani for a while now. I tend to support bot with Lux most of the time, and the other three I seem to do best mid.

Edit: derp. Apparently runes max at 20. Neat. I'm thinking Greater Quint of Health Regen and Lifesteal.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 11:14 AM

Ping people over to make sure they leash. If mid refuses to come dmg I will not give them blue the rest of the game and if all lanes need help equally I'm a lot more hesitant to gank for them. (same goes for top or bottom)

As far as runes for Sej, I do quints of swiftness (fairly common on junglers), attack speed reds (pretty common again) - I realize she is not an attack based champion, this is just to crux her through her first clear armor yellows and scaling magci resist glyphs.

I wouldn't recommend lifesteal quints, they were good for a small portion of time but I only use them on 1 of my 9 rune pages and it's specifically for shyvanna (who is pretty worthless atm). There aren't too many champs you can justify health regen on either, just not really worth it.