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[lord of the lols]

Thank you for being polite. I really appreciate it. I have not done much research into the creationist side, so thank you, as well, for that. If you would like to stay at least somewhat up to date in the world of science here is a link. It is updated about 4 times per week. Enjoy! http://www.sciencedaily.com/

[Affray]

I agree with what you said, I don't have a proper education about this subject. However, I am intitled to an opinion in anything, though I can't say that I'm completely correct all the time but people believe what people believe.
When it comes to the point of not remembering of religions or science, Gods evidence of reality is nature. Who gave us the knowledge to understand and learn about things we thought could never be known, we thought were IMPOSSIBLE. Even if we did forget what we know and believe, there is evidence of Him. Of jesus christ, can you imagine going on a cross and dying for someone you loved? Would you have done that? I am not trying to shove this up into anybodies throat. I do honor what you say, I'm not just shoving this away, I want to listen. It does not make me change, but I do want to listen. Also, if science never goes away...but we forget, and I forget religon, does that make nature and all within it go away? Something to think I about...

Nature is evidence of science in motion if anything.

Operating on the preconceived notion that God created all things in nature does not equate nature being evidence of God's influence.

I disagree that there is any evidence of any sort of God when it comes down to brass tacks.

Other than religious writings, there is no physical, tangible evidence of any sort to support the existence of a higher power.

Again, in no way am I belittling your beliefs.

I just wish more people could appreciate the pure and simple logic behind observing what they can see, touch and analyse in this world and base their opinions on that information.

Admitting that you do not maintain a working knowledge of the scientific world is the first step toward bettering yourself.

I suggest going out there and reading everything you can, listening to lectures, and just being a knowledge sponge in every way possible.

You will probably impress yourself with how your views will change as you learn.

[Calvary]

I would just like to add to Affray's point:

 

If we started with a blank slate, wiped away all science and religion. We'd rediscover the same science as last time but the religion would change immensely. That is because science is unchanging; it follows fundamental laws and principles. Religion is the delusion of a person, or group of people, who perpetuate an age old myth because they are afraid of death.

 

Since this has become a bit of a theological debate, I'll also throw in that I was a Catholic until a couple of years ago. I know what it's like to face that indoctrination, it's so easy to go along with it and ignore all the evidence that points to how the universe really works. Once you start to challenge the questions you have though, once you realise there's no answers to them to be found in your holy book, the walls come tumbling down.

 

Now then, the other chaps have pretty much debunked your initial point, so I don't really know what else to add. I suppose I'll leave it there.

 

e: Looks like Affray actually did make my first point, and I just reworded it. =I