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[Aresem]

HOW DO?

[Chukkzy]

C is the third letter of the alphabet, C++ is nerdlanguage and means as much as "C and the 2 followers", so C D E.

Always glad to help.

[LD50]

are you trying to work with C or with C++?

They're obviously both program languages. C++ came about originally as an extension to C, but has grown into it's own language.


There are a wide number of available books on either. Mostly likely web pages, as well. I haven't dealt with programming for a few years, so I'm rusty as hell and probably would have to search just as hard to find sites.

Get yourself a compiler and you can start playing around.

[Aresem]

I'm not trying to work with either yet. The thread was vague, I get that, I get that, so here's what I'm wondering.

Is there anywhere in particular I should be starting to learn this kind of thing, any specific language? I've heard C++ from some people, BASIC from others, and I still have no idea why I'd prefer one over the other.

[SpleenBeGone]

Get Microsoft's Visual Studio, it's a pretty good framework, and there's a nice community. I just don't have the patients to learn it myself.

[K_N]

There's no reason to learn BASIC, at all. It's a dying language with no merit in the professional world.

Learn C# or Java if you want a job. C++ or C if you want to work in open source, that's pretty much the guide for that.

[LD50]

There's no reason to learn BASIC, at all.

how else will the children learn to print out "Hello world!"?
THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

seriously, though, i agree

[Aresem]

There's no reason to learn BASIC, at all. It's a dying language with no merit in the professional world.

Learn C# or Java if you want a job. C++ or C if you want to work in open source, that's pretty much the guide for that.

Thanks, that's what I was looking for.

[K_N]

Don't forget to learn .NET if you're working with C#

[Zashiki_Warashi]

There's no reason to learn BASIC, at all. It's a dying language with no merit in the professional world.

Learn C# or Java if you want a job. C++ or C if you want to work in open source, that's pretty much the guide for that.

There are still a lot of people out here, old school and new school, who still suggest BASIC and I just do not understand why people still suggest it.

BASIC has horrible syntax and it's non-portable.

BASIC is so EWW!!!

[Aresem]

Okay, so... I take it nobody likes BASIC. I can dig it, Brometheus.

[K_N]

There's just no room for code without true OOP principals anymore. It's inefficient.

[Aresem]

I have no idea what you just said

[K_N]

Object Oriented Programming. It means using Classes and Constructors, building a program around the idea that it is made up of objects that perform different tasks and communicate with eachother. BASIC fails at it.

[Zashiki_Warashi]

Object Oriented Programming. It means using Classes and Constructors, building a program around the idea that it is made up of objects that perform different tasks and communicate with eachother. BASIC fails at it.

Now I finally understand what Object Oriented Programming is all about.

You need to write a book.

Thank you.

[bass cadet]

Learn flash as3! It's based around OOP as well and is relatively easy to learn compared to C, C++, or anything similar (at least it was for me.)
the downside is that flash is only used in web browsers and as far as actually running complex or demanding code, it pails in comparrison to languages that produce .exe files as an end result.

But seriously, I love flash because creating games in it feels so simple and intuitive, yet the code still has enough flexibility to create just about anything you can think of that isn't too demanding on hardware. And besides all that, it's a great start to OOP even if you move on to more complex languages in the future.

[bass cadet]

Flash is actually moving to desktop. I believe adobe announced end of support for flash plugin for web (which is a good thing) because of HTML5 and lack of mobile support. Flash will still be around for AIR, though, and looks to be taking off with GPU support now.

And for the record AS is loosely C based (perhaps based isn't the right word - it shares similar form with most curly brace languages).

Hmm. that's interesting and I was unaware of that. I'm not at all familiar with HTML5 or even what it is capable of, but I'm skeptical to believe that it will replace flash on the web unless HTML5 is capable of producing high quality games mostly because the market for flash games is currently very strong and stable. I could definitely see flash being replaced in areas of the web not game-related, though.

[bass cadet]

I'm very impressed, but this video


makes me feel like its complicated just to complete basic tasks. I am very impressed by those capabilities, and it's clever how people make games like that, but the big question is, is it Object Oriented?